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I was kind of, you know, I went to the low-carb. Zach and I were both at his low-carb San Diego. He came to speak, and I just came to hang out because I live not far from there. It was fun sort of running into just these various people that I've met online. and so it was a very, I'm glad I did it.

It was a lot of fun.

I spent too, you know and I think I talked continuously for two days maybe maybe next year they'll have you to speak

I mean yeah I think there's some of that stuff you know there's something that I'm excited about

I just got invited to speak at the US Cattle. Cattlemen's Association, which I think is...

Nice.

I think that is, you know, something that we have to liaise between, you know, the people

produce our food and the consumers and this nutritional thing.

I think they're, you know, they've got such a...

They've been beaten up in the, you know, they need to PR, you know, improve, they need to improve their PR because they've been taking it on the chin for decades and they just, I think they have to, they have to do a better job and I'm going to talk to them about that. I totally agree. The cattlemen, the ranchers, the dairy producers, all the people that produce animal food. I mean, we need to stand up for them now. We needed to do it all along, but now it's the time to really step up. Well, and I think that's a thing, you know, I think a lot of are getting better in the, in the health advocacy space. We're learning more. We're becoming, you know, vocal proponents of that, you know, learning a little bit of the health science.

But I think, you know, equally, I think you have to take on all these aspects.

You have to learn about, you know, environmental impact, and you learn about how your food is produced

and really understand it, not just because most of the people quite honestly, and this is,

and I'll credit the folks that unfortunately make these

sort of somewhat distorted propaganda type films, as most of us think that animal agriculture

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