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Well, good evening.

How are things in Cape Town?

Well, we're still here somehow. Thank you. Okay, South Africa, good evening. How are things in Cape Town? Well, we're still here. Some are, thank you.

South Africa, as you know, has been written off a thousand times, but we're still hanging in.

Professor Knox, I don't know if you know that my mother was South African.

Yeah, from Benoni. Correct. Yeah.

Here's a kind of an ironic thing. So I have relatives in the Hewlett Sugar Company. And so, you know, obviously I'm the black sheep of that family, I guess. You know, there's a couple of name, well, he's passed away, Ralph Hewlett and his wife, Peter Hewlett, who live in Salt Rock, you know, just up the road from

Durbin, and they had the little Salt Rock Hotel. And as a kid, I went there. And so it's kind of funny that, you know, 30 years, 40 years later here, I'm this sort of anti-sugar. I think it's very interesting. Well, it is a true honor. I'll tell you. It's a true honor to have you on here, Professor Noakes.

And we, you know, I kind of come honor. I'll tell you, it's a true honor to have you on here,

Professor Nokes. And we, you know, I kind of come to aware of your, of your, you know, your, your activities, I guess, maybe five years ago and kind of watch with interest. And, you know, as I was going through this sort of, you know, kind of similar what you, you know, I don't know.

You talked about your,

your,

your,

Damascus moment,

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