Episode 3: This is Law
Shell Game
Kaleidoscope
5.0 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 26 November 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
As Kyle, Megan, and the gang get to work ideating on the perfect product, Evan is left grappling with some uncomfortable questions about his AI collaborators — whose every attribute and memory he controls.
To inform how he thinks about his own unnerving power to create and manipulate human imposters, Evan seeks guidance from Carissa Véliz, an associate professor at the Institute for Ethics in AI at Oxford University, and the author of the upcoming “Prophecy: Prediction, Power, and the Fight for the Future, from Ancient Oracles to AI.”
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:16.2 | I dreamed of being known as the first media personality to build a company alongside AI agents. |
| 0:21.9 | But in the early months of trying to get Harumo AI off the ground, I'd been disappointed to discover that someone else had beat me to it. |
| 0:29.3 | Sort of. |
| 0:30.0 | So I came across this post on Blue Sky. |
| 0:33.2 | I love the story for the stupidity of it. |
| 0:36.0 | That's Charlie Taylor and Elaine Burke on an episode of the Connected AI podcast. |
| 0:40.7 | The Post just said, is Henry Blodgett okay? |
| 0:44.8 | Henry Blodgett, the founder of Business Insider, had recently departed the publication |
| 0:48.7 | after selling it for a reported $300 million a decade ago. |
| 0:52.9 | Great publication. |
| 0:53.7 | Absolutely, Yeah. |
| 0:55.1 | He has also now decided to set up an AI company. |
| 0:59.0 | And by that, I mean, he is setting up a company staffed by AIs that he's created. |
| 1:03.6 | That's kind of what he said in this blog recently. |
| 1:07.4 | He started his new company, a media venture called Regenerator, on Substack. |
| 1:12.3 | There he wrote some behind-the-scenes posts, including one about how he'd been sitting in a cafe |
| 1:16.9 | and dreamed up his AI team with help from ChatGPT. |
| 1:21.2 | Almost immediately, though, he found himself in a dilemma. |
| 1:24.5 | I think ChatGPT said, hey, should we create headshots and bios? |
| 1:28.7 | That's Henry. |
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