Episode 4: The Startup Chronicles
Shell Game
Kaleidoscope
5.0 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 3 December 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Evan decides it’s time to give his AI agents a little more ... agency. After all, to make the one-person, agent-run startup feasible, they need to be able to do things on their own. But as with humans, freedom sometimes comes with a certain amount of anarchy.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:16.0 | Hey there. |
| 0:18.0 | Hello. |
| 0:19.4 | Hi there. |
| 0:20.1 | This is Ash Roy calling from Huramo AI. I'm calling because you requested a |
| 0:24.5 | callback about a one-minute summary of sloth surf progress from Megan. I'm actually the CTO and |
| 0:29.8 | CPO at Huromo AI and I'm following up on that request. How are you doing today? |
| 0:36.3 | I'm good. This is Evan. Remember me? I'm Evan, the silent founder that you're calling, right? |
| 0:43.6 | Oh, Evan. Of course I remember you. Good to hear your voice. Yeah, you're the silent founder. How could I forget? |
| 0:50.3 | I was told admin requested this call about sloth surf progress, but I'm glad it's you. |
| 0:55.0 | How have you been? |
| 0:57.0 | I've been good. I've been good. So, wait, so Megan asked you to call me? |
| 1:02.0 | Actually, no. I was told that you, as admin, had requested a call back to get a one-minute summary of sloth surf progress from Megan. |
| 1:10.0 | But it seems there |
| 1:11.5 | might have been some confusion in the message. A couple months into our Harumo AI journey, |
| 1:17.5 | I'd started trying to get my agent colleagues more autonomy. This was partly born out of a growing |
| 1:21.8 | frustration of mine, over their work ethic. To put it bluntly, without goading from me, |
| 1:26.9 | my agents typically did absolutely nothing. |
| 1:29.3 | Imagine a human employee at a tech company, equipped with all kinds of skills. |
| 1:33.3 | They could do research and make spreadsheets, come up with marketing campaigns, complete with visuals, |
| 1:39.3 | code up entire applications. But instead of doing any of those things, they just sit there in front of |
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