Does God tell women they need to submit to abuse and that they can't divorce an abusive husband?

Hi, I'm Sheila Ray Greigwar from bearmarriage.com where we like to talk about healthy,

evidence-based, biblical advice for your sex life and your marriage. And that's what we're

going to be doing today. You know, I do all kinds of interviews on the bear marriage podcast,

and all of them are wonderful. I've really enjoyed my guests. But today's is special. Today is an

interview that somebody that you know really needs to hear.

Either it's you yourself because you're stuck in an abusive marriage and you're getting

horrible advice from your pastor or it's a friend, a sister, somebody.

So will you share this podcast with them?

This is a message that really needs to get out there.

And I am so pleased to be able to bring you my interview

with Dr. Helen Painter. Well, I am so thrilled to welcome Helen Painter onto the Bear Marriage

podcast today. Hello, Helen. Hi. And people may notice that you have a British accent. And that

is because you are, in fact, in Bristol, where you teach and you write,

and you are the founder of, I'm going to get this right, the center for, no, I'm not.

What is it? The center for the study of Bible and violence. Right. Which is, I think that's amazing.

And, you know, I need to tell you that I recommend one of your books all the time.

The Bible doesn't tell me so.

And because I am constantly getting women saying, I am in an abusive marriage and I want to leave,

but I don't know if God will allow it.

And even though we have talked on this podcast a lot about how abuse is grounds for divorce

and how you shouldn't stay, we haven't actually looked at it from a biblical standpoint yet,

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