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Episode 299 Promo - Post Coup-lonializm (w/ Ndongo Samba Sylla & Alex Rubinstein)

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2023

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Briahna is joined by Senegalese development economist Ndongo Samba Sylla, who focuses on Fair Trade, labor markets, social movements, democratic theory, and monetary sovereignty; and Alex Rubinstein, contributor to The Gray Zone, to discuss last month's coup in Niger, neo-colonialism, and the new "NATO" proxy war.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.
 
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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0:00.0

There is this tension between Western influence, namely in the form of France, the United States.

0:07.8

France has this current control over the region, so there's very little financial autonomy for these states.

0:13.9

You have ECOWAS, which I've heard described as sort of an African NATO proxy organization

0:20.6

with the same way that NATO has the Western

0:23.3

alliances and people think it's basically just puppeted by the United States, although there

0:27.2

is a sensible autonomy. And so that on one side you have the Nigeria as a strong Western ally

0:34.7

in the region, an ECOWAS threatening to send troops in and oust

0:40.6

the coup, Western support for the ostensibly elected government that was just overthrown,

0:46.8

but also in the background, a feeling as though the elected government, the overthrown

0:52.2

government, wasn't necessarily democratically elected

0:54.8

in the first place. And I also saw some polls from this economist article from about a week ago

0:58.9

that were suggesting that majorities in Niger actually supported the political agenda of the

1:04.4

coup government. Does that sound accurate? Am I summarizing that accurately? Okay. So I'll come back to you, Dr. Silla,

1:12.1

then. As an anti-imperialist American observer, I think it can be difficult to wrestle with the

1:19.4

optics of a coup, the optics of something that is kind of sort of plainly undemocratic and so far

1:25.5

as that the coup government is not elected,

1:28.1

but on the background of a system where already there's a sentiment that there is not a lot of

1:33.8

democracy going on in the first place. So how should we interpret polls that suggest that there

1:38.7

is sympathy for the coup government? How should we interpret the fact that on the date, August 6th,

1:44.1

that the Eaglewas countries were given as a deadline for the coup government to leave?

1:47.1

You had this massive protest in this Chinese-built stadium where the public seemed to be demonstrating support of the coup government.

1:55.0

How should the left be appropriately assessing what the will or the at least popular consensus of people in Niger is right now?

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