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Episode 270 Promo - Foregone Illusion: Part 2 (w/ Kshama Sawant)

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 4 minutes

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In part two of this two-part episode, Briahna and Kshama Sawant parse AOC's recent interview with David Sirota at The Lever and analyze her explanation for voting to crush the rail workers strike. They also continue their debate about what litmus test presidential candidates must pass to secure primary votes from progressives. Is Bernie the floor?

Listen to Part One for free here.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.
 
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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0:00.0

AOC responds, well, let's focus on the times when I haven't voted with the president, like on billback better.

0:05.8

And it is true that they withheld their vote for some portion of the year in AOC and some of the squad members did object to the bifurcation of the bill, saying outright that the only reason you would break something like this up into the infrastructure piece and the social safety net piece or the social services

0:21.3

piece is because you were trying to sink the ladder and save the former. But ultimately,

0:27.2

what ended up happening? So she responds respectfully. She's painting this picture of being asked

0:33.6

personally by the President of the United States in an open meeting where she's being

0:37.8

scrutinized presumably by her colleagues as well. And the pressure, she's kind of being open about

0:42.2

the pressure that she's feeling to go along with the president because of the posture of how

0:46.8

this conversation is playing out. And she gets right up to the line of saying to David when Biden

0:51.5

asks, do you trust me? She says respectfully dot, dot, dot,

0:56.1

and then kind of changes what she was about to say and goes off in a different direction.

0:59.5

And ultimately comes back to saying, it's not that I don't trust you. I don't trust

1:02.0

mansion and cinema. What do you make of that?

1:06.7

I have to say that whole response that she gave is a word salad.

1:12.3

And anytime you see a political figure engaging in a word salad, it shows that it's an exercise and evasion, you know, you don't want to face the question really.

1:22.6

Firstly, the fact that she just, as you said, pivoted to the one time that, you know, for a period of time,

1:28.0

they had disagreed with Biden rather than actually responding to the question that he asked,

1:34.1

which is actually, look at all these, you know, I mean, I was actually surprised that Zerota

1:38.3

listed all those separate individual instances when the squad failed to stand up for working people.

1:46.8

And she did not address any of those things initially.

1:50.8

And I think the whole narrative that she presents, as you said,

1:55.0

it has some aspects of honesty there in the sense that there is so much pressure on her.

2:01.3

And I think the narrative that she's trying to put forward is not that she is denying that there is that pressure on her,

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