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All right. I'm very glad to be joined on bad faith podcast by Margaret Kimberly, the executive editor of the Black Agenda Report. Welcome to bad faith.

Thank you so much. It's great to be here. Yeah. I was saying before we started rolling that it's long overdue. For many reasons, one of which is that I think that

the black agenda report is an underappreciated resource to the left. So for folks who aren't initiated, what's it all about?

Black Agenda report we've been around since 2006. We provide a news and analysis from a black left perspective and emphasis on left.

We're not Democrats. We're not liberals. We are leftists, but we always emphasize black people here in this country and around the world and our situation, but we analyze always as leftists.

Margaret, I'm told the black leftists don't even really exist. How convenient. I know what a convenient thing to say that we aren't here. But you know, this is a tradition among black people.

We traditionally were the most left leaning group of people in the country that has changed somewhat with the right word shift in general.

The fact that black people are trapped or field trapped by the duopoly and think that Democrats have to be supported no matter what.

But in general, that has been our political tradition is to have a left wing point of view. I think we are still the most left, although that, as I just said, has changed somewhat over time.

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I wonder if you have any particular insight about what's going on there with a black vote and what you think of the likely outcomes as we head into the 2024 season.

Of course, it's been reporting about how a majority of Biden voters would refer for him not to run again. There seems to be a lack of enthusiasm around his candidacy for many reasons, including his age. Of course, Donald Trump is similarly facing low favorability numbers. And it feels a lot like we're heading into a kind of 2016 lesser of two evils realm again.

There was a lot of talk as you pointed to in 2016 of Trump having gotten a incrementally larger slice of the black vote and doing much better with Latinos than other conservatives had typically done.

And of course, in 2020, there was this feeling that Joe Biden running in the middle of the George Floyd protests didn't really been the need didn't really seem to give any concessions to black folks, but the threat of Trump even in the middle of that protest movement was enough to get most people to follow in line.

Do you anticipate anything different happening this time around? Sadly, no, I don't. This do opically trap for black people makes people think that they don't have choices.

You know, everybody forgets everyone wants to lift up the liberation movement, the civil rights movement, but no one mentions what it was that happened.

People mobilized independently of political parties made demands that they knew the system did not want to meet, but they did it anyway.

And great changes that we did see in this country came about because of that popular mobilization, but that movement was crushed.

People were propagandized. Well, the movement was crushed, first of all, and then we were there was a buffer class created the congressional black caucus and so on.

So there seemed to be a place for us politically, although it's on the surface.

And as Republicans moved further and further to the right, there was a greater and greater allegiance to Democrats, even as we saw conservative Democrats like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, where do we start with people thinking they couldn't even question him?

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