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At Last She Said It

Episode 266: Big Ideas | Sabbath

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

What would a generative day—one that might throw off energy into the rest of your life—look like? In Episode 266, Susan and Cynthia take on the concept of Sabbath. It's a conversation about abundance, rhythm, letting go, and what it means to rest. Also about not needing to earn or prove anything, liberation, eradicating oppression, and some of the ways Latter-day Saints may think too narrowly when approaching this expansive idea.

Transcript

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0:00.0

And so more and more, I'm just looking for these, like, quiet disruptors of my work

0:10.3

or productivity, scrolling, whatever. And I don't know how I feel about Sabbath as an entire

0:18.8

day. Again, laws don't stand still. But I do know that I'm actively

0:24.2

working on Sabbath moments. Love that idea. Sabbath moments. Yes, I can get behind that.

0:36.6

Hello, I'm Cynthia Winward.

0:38.3

And I'm Susan Hinkley.

0:40.3

And this is at last she said it.

0:42.3

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

0:45.3

And the title of today's episode is Big Ideas, Sabbath.

0:51.3

Oh, Cynthia, I'm nervous for this one.

0:55.9

You should be.

0:56.9

I made all the notes.

0:58.3

I know.

0:59.5

If it's a flop, you blame yourself.

1:02.8

It's not that I necessarily worry about being a flop.

1:06.5

It's that I feel, man, I was going to say, I was going to say I feel like a hypocrite having

1:13.5

this conversation, but that's not even strong enough of a word. I feel like a fraud. This is a

1:18.8

fraudulent episode of at last she said it. And I'm going to say more about why that is in a minute.

1:25.5

And I feel about approaching this one like you felt about

1:29.4

approaching myth. Like you were a little bit, you had some trepidation about that because you

1:33.4

didn't feel like it was in your wheelhouse necessarily, right? You were kind of, yeah, that's how

1:38.6

I'm, that's how I am in this conversation. But also, I am the one who begged to have this

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