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At Last She Said It

Episode 265: Let Your Life Speak | A Conversation with Jenny Richards

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Vocation at its deepest level is "something I can't not do, for reasons I'm unable to explain to anyone else and don't fully understand myself, but are nonetheless compelling." This description from Parker Palmer frames the journey of chaplain Jenny Richards. She says, "If there is an openness to life, then I think vocation is where we meet our desires and our love of God. They meet, and if I think it's something I can't not do, that's very compelling. And it's terrifying." In Episode 265, Jenny joins Cynthia and Susan for a conversation about the remarkable path she's walking, and how she came to be on it.

Transcript

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I also want to just include that when we spoke of the divine rescue where I felt like I was

0:06.9

hitting the limits of what was possible within our faith tradition. This call to chaplaincy has

0:12.6

also opened this ability that is rare for a woman in the church to offer spiritual counsel to

0:18.5

men. And as a chaplain, there is this sense of,

0:21.6

there's this sense of anonymity.

0:23.6

I'm not a therapist that's going to follow up with further visits.

0:26.6

And I'm not clergy, but I'm someone that can represent a spiritual authority

0:31.6

and a space in which men and women have both confessed

0:35.6

and had me hold space with them in their existential worries and fears

0:39.7

I'm LDS men, non-LDS men, men of no faith. I have encountered all of these types of individuals

0:48.2

that need a spiritual authority to talk them through things and that's a rare opportunity for an LDS

0:53.3

woman.

0:57.7

Hello, I'm Susan Hinkley.

0:59.4

And I'm Cynthia Winward.

1:01.6

And this is at last she said it.

1:04.3

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

1:11.2

And the title of today's episode is Let Your Life Speak, a conversation with Jenny Richards.

1:12.8

Hello, Jenny.

1:14.6

Hi, Susan and Cynthia.

1:15.3

Welcome.

1:17.0

We're so glad to have you.

1:18.3

Thank you.

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