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At Last She Said It

Episode 255: What Do You Say? 3 Conversations About Spiritual Seeking, Being Forgotten, and Chasing Equality

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 255, Cynthia and Susan ask Aubrey Chaves, Debbie Squires-Coleman, and Darice Auston, "What Do You Say?" It's 3 wide-ranging conversations with wise Latter-day Saint women answering questions about their memories, insights, and beliefs through stories of their own lives and experiences.

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0:00.0

I don't, I don't grieve my child not being at church now.

0:08.0

Yeah.

0:09.0

That I wouldn't wish her back at this point.

0:14.0

Having a relationship with God, wonderful.

0:16.0

Walking with Christ, yes, please.

0:18.0

Coming into an LDS church building and being subjected to what are trans and

0:23.9

non-binary, gender fluid, gender expansive, members are being asked to do? No way.

0:32.0

Hello, I'm Susan Hinkley. And I am Cynthia Winward. And this is at last she said it. We are women of faith discussing

0:39.0

complicated things. And the title of today's episode is What Do You Say? Three Conversations

0:45.1

About Spiritual Seeking, Being Forgotten, and Chasing Equality. Oh, you know, as soon as we started

0:52.9

doing our journey episodes, Cynthia, I was soon after that,

0:58.1

I started to have a hunch that we could have an interesting conversation with pretty much any

1:03.2

LDS woman.

1:05.1

Agreed.

1:05.9

Like, I really couldn't.

1:07.3

I couldn't always predict who was going to be the most interesting of those conversations.

1:12.2

And some of my favorites are people that I really didn't know anything about.

1:16.3

And that's why I thought it might be a good idea to add the cards to this season and see

1:22.5

how many more women we could get on here.

1:24.4

And so we're starting with three conversations today.

1:28.1

We've been batch recording these. It's been really fun. Well, it's been really fun for me. I'm not sure it's

1:32.4

been really fun for all the women. In fact, I think one of them might tell us, this is not fun.

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