Episode 254: Big Ideas | Piety

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Does piety serve anything besides the ego? Is our piety an asset or a liability? And what are we—individually and collectively—getting from it? In Episode 254, Susan and Cynthia consider these questions and more in a conversation examining the piety that is a cultural hallmark of our church. For Latter-day Saints and other Christians, is a focus on outward appearances or superficial "churchiness" sometimes a stand-in for real inner transformation?

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0:00.0	We make good things happen in our lives.
0:06.9	We make God bless us.
0:09.0	We bind God.
0:10.9	So, yeah, I think piety gives us a false sense of control.
0:15.9	Well, it certainly did me, and I didn't only just think I could control myself.
0:19.1	I thought I could control other people, too, through my goodness. Oh, for sure. My goodness was all about control, which is, was probably
0:27.3	the most damaging thing about my goodness, reckoning with the idea that I have to give up control
0:33.8	in order to actually have faith.
0:40.8	Hello, I'm Cynthia Winward.
0:42.2	And I'm Susan Hinkley.
0:43.9	And this is at last she said it.
0:46.8	We are women of faith discussing complicated things.
0:52.3	The title of today's episode is Big Ideas, Piety.
0:58.7	Piety, Cynthia. Why are we talking about piety? Oh my goodness. Why are we talking about piety? Because I'm just going to, I'm just going to turn that over to you.
1:04.1	Because you jump started this episode with the notes. So why are we talking about piety?
1:10.4	Well, it's really interesting because when I started the notes, the first line on my notes is So why are we talking about piety? Well, it's really interesting because when I started
1:12.5	the notes, the first line on my notes is, I remember this came up in a text combo, but what were we
1:17.5	talking about? I don't remember. But then, since then, I have re-listened to our sin episode and
1:24.3	realized that we had piety sprinkled all over in that conversation.
1:28.0	Yeah, we did.
1:28.6	And so I think that's probably why it was friend of mind for me whenever it came up next
1:34.3	that made me sit down and start on these notes.
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