Hey, everybody.

Welcome to ABA Inside Track the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer.

I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz, and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts.

Hey, Rob, it's me, Diana.

And it's me, your lovable pal, Jackie.

Oh, boy, it's so exciting to be recording.

Some behind-the-scenes stuff. You know, summer is over.

You've, for listeners, you're like, yeah, it's been over for a while.

But, you know, in the podcast, biz, they'll turn behind the scenes.

Usually record before the episode comes out, not the day of.

So there's often a little bit of a delay.

So, you know, for us, summer's just ending.

For you, you're like midfall if you're in the northern hemisphere.

When I was a kid, when I was a kid, I thought that all of the songs being played on the radio were being played live.

That would be hard for the musicians.

I was like, how did they get all these guys to come in and play these

songs right now in this moment? I think there's a Simpsons joke like that. Like, we're going to

do this cartoon live. It's like, well, we don't usually do them alive. We're very hard on the

animators. But anyway, this isn't a podcast about time dilation and live events. This is a podcast

about behavior analysis and behavior analytic research where every week we pick a topic and read some relevant research and then discuss it.

In some weeks, we are fortunate enough to have a guest.

And in this case, we have a guest both who's sharing some exciting research and is on a topic that is sort of a variation on ones we've done in the

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