Episode 247 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on When to Push Hard and When to Pull Back
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the morning shakeout podcast
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🗓️ 24 November 2025
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
I recently sat down with my good friend and frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman, the co-founder and publisher of my favorite running magazine, Like The Wind, for our final quarterly conversation of 2025, which you can listen to wherever you get the morning shakeout podcast. An excerpt of this exchange can be found in Issue #47 of LtW, which comes out this week. (You can buy a copy or subscribe here.)
In this episode we discuss when to push and when to pull back in running, business, and life.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Morning Shakeout podcast. |
| 0:04.3 | I love to run, period. |
| 0:07.1 | You can always run faster. |
| 0:09.2 | Forever, you're going to feel something. |
| 0:12.1 | You're going to run into roadblocks, but that's also going to teach you how to handle things in life. |
| 0:17.3 | I don't think we want to be like rocks where we're not affected by anything. |
| 0:20.9 | It's not maybe a physical thing, but it's a mental thing. |
| 0:24.1 | There's like two voices in me, alpha and beta. |
| 0:27.3 | All I was really trying to do was just keep moving forward. |
| 0:32.6 | Every single runner knows what that means. |
| 0:36.1 | My life has a purpose, and maybe it's not what I thought it was going to be, but... |
| 0:40.3 | There were times when I didn't think I would be able to come back. |
| 0:44.5 | There's a lot of people that had different gifts, and they don't use it. |
| 0:48.8 | I think if we all use our gifts, we could do something really special, not for ourselves, |
| 0:53.2 | but our family. |
| 0:54.3 | If we're really good, we could do something for our community, wherever we live. |
| 1:08.9 | Hey, what's up, everyone. |
| 1:10.2 | After what seems like an eternity, we are back with a fresh episode of the Morning Shakeout podcast. |
| 1:16.2 | This one is my quarterly conversation with Like the Win magazine founder, Simon Freeman. |
| 1:22.6 | And here, as always, to set it up with me is my right-hand man, Chris Douglas. |
| 1:26.0 | Chris, welcome to Morning Shakeout |
| 1:27.8 | Studios. How's it going? Yeah, studios looking good. Not too bad. What'd you think of this episode? I loved it. I think, you know, I'm a broken record on this. I love these conversations. I feel like a fly on a wall on two people just having a proper chin wag, as they would say, in the UK. And yeah, this one was no different. |
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