Episode 248 | Devin Kelly on His New Novel, Exploring His Obsessions, and Committing to a Daily Practice
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4.9 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
I recently sat down with runner and writer Devin Kelly to discuss his new novel, Pilgrims, and also talk about his process, his use of repetition throughout the book, and the parallels that exist between what he feels when he writes and what he feels when he runs. We also got into how he used the novel to explore his obsessions, the importance of committing to a daily practice, what's exciting him in running today, and a lot more.
Longtime listeners may remember Devin’s first appearance on the podcast in Episode 119, a wide-ranging and impactful conversation that touched on running, writing, exploration, masculinity, shame, self-worth, hope, and more. If you’re new to the podcast, or simply missed it the first time around, you can give it a listen right here.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Morning Shakeout podcast. |
| 0:04.3 | I love to run, period. |
| 0:07.2 | You can always run faster. |
| 0:09.2 | Forever, you're going to feel something. |
| 0:12.1 | You're going to run into roadblocks, but that's also going to teach you how to handle things in life. |
| 0:17.3 | I don't think we want to be like rocks where we're not affected by anything. |
| 0:20.9 | It's not maybe a physical thing, but it's a mental thing. |
| 0:24.1 | There's like two voices in me, and palma and beta. |
| 0:27.3 | All I was really trying to do was just keep moving forward. |
| 0:32.6 | Every single runner knows what that means. |
| 0:36.1 | My life has a purpose, and maybe it's not what I thought it was going to be, but... |
| 0:40.3 | There were times when I didn't think I would be able to come back. |
| 0:44.5 | There's a lot of people that had different gifts, and they don't use it. |
| 0:48.8 | I think if we all use our gifts, we could do something really special, not for ourselves, |
| 0:53.2 | but our family. |
| 0:54.3 | If we're really good, we could do something for our community, wherever we live. |
| 1:02.8 | Happy New Year, everyone. |
| 1:10.6 | It's your host, Mario Fraoli, and we are back with the first episode of the Morning |
| 1:15.8 | Shakeout Podcast for 2026. |
| 1:17.7 | And here, as always, to set this one up with me is my right-hand man, Chris Douglas. |
| 1:21.9 | Chris, welcome back. |
| 1:24.0 | Thank you. |
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