You're listening to the Morning Shakeout podcast.

I love to run, period.

You can always run faster.

Forever, you're going to feel something.

You're going to run into roadblocks, but that's also going to teach you how to handle things in life.

I don't think we want to be like rocks where we're not affected by anything.

It's not maybe a physical thing, but it's a mental thing.

There's like two voices in Manda, beta.

All I was really trying to do was just keep moving forward.

Every single runner knows what that means.

My life has a purpose and maybe it's not what I thought it was going to be, but...

There were times when I didn't think I would be able to come back.

There's a lot of people that had different gifts, and they don't use it.

I think if we all use our gifts, we could do something really special, not for ourselves,

but our family.

If we're really good, we could do something for special, not for ourselves, but our family. If we're really good,

we could do something for our community wherever we live.

Hey, everyone. After what feels like a very long hiatus, it's your host, Mario Frioli. We are back with a fresh episode of the podcast. It's my third quarterly conversation of 2025 with Like the Wind magazine co-founder Simon Freeman. And here, as always, to set this one up with me is my right-hand man, Chris Douglas. Chris, welcome back to the morning shakeout podcast for, we'll just say the umpteenth time. Yeah, happy to be back. Always happy to be on the pod with you, Mario. All right. We're going to set this one up, and I will let you take the lead on it. Yeah, so I always feel like I'm in a privileged position where I get to listen to these episodes before they go live. And as ever, you know, I love these conversations with you and Simon. I feel like it's like you're just sitting in a bar having a good chin wag, as they'd say in the UK, about running. And this conversation is no different. I think, you know, one of the themes that I thought was really interesting was leaning in on an idea of, like, teams and support crews and how that really supports not just runners, but kind of like, you know, your business, Simon's business and everything else.

And I'm curious, you know, in your mind, and I should say thank you for the kind words mentioned on the podcast.

I do think, like, we have a really great partnership. But I'm curious, Mario, you know, when you have these conversations

with Simon, like, you know, what are the things that kind of come to mind for you when you think

about maybe in your own past, like being on cross-country teams and how you use kind of that team

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