Welcome everybody to Crystal Cuyall and friends.

Today, obviously, my lovely wife is not with us.

She's actually on a field trip with one of the little kids, so she's doing her motherly duties

at the moment.

But I'm here nonetheless, and we have an awesome interview for

you lined up with Ken Klippenstein, independent journalist. Ken, thanks for joining me, man. I appreciate it.

Hey, great to be with you again, Kyle. So, dude, you released this report, and it is absolutely terrifying.

I covered it on my show. It's a gigantic deal. So just to break it down for everybody real

quick, Trump signed this directive, this NSPM 7 directive. And in that directive, basically what he says is these things effectively sort of put you on the government's radar that perhaps you're either a domestic terrorist or aiding and abetting domestic terrorists. And it includes things like

anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, support for the overthrow of the U.S.

government, extremism on migration, on race, gender, hostility towards those who hold traditional

American views on family. Same thing for traditional American views on religion.

Same thing for traditional American views on religion uh same thing for traditional american views

on morality and so that's obviously of they're casting a very very wide net there but let me

start with this uh as you point out in your piece the nspm 7 directive it's not the same thing

as an executive order so tell everybody the difference between the n NSPM 7 and an executive order and why this actually makes it way more serious than if it was an executive order.

Yeah, so unlike executive orders of which there are over 200 at this point, and executive orders by nature are kind of more micro-level, sort of do this.

You know, for example, one of them was about gender and, you know, removing the trans from

government websites, things like that.

Very specific, very narrow, tends to be smaller bore, more open to like just rhetorical

sort of flourish.

In the case of presidential memoranda on national security, which this was, the seven at the end

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