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Krystal Kyle & Friends

Episode 245: Chris Hedges

Krystal Kyle & Friends

Krystal

News, Politics

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

We talk to journalist Chris Hedges about the rise of American fascism.

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0:00.0

Welcome, everybody to Crystal, Kyle, and Friends.

0:10.0

We are very fortunate to be joined this morning by Chris Hedges, man who scarcely needs an introduction,

0:14.8

but he's a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, of course.

0:16.8

He was bureau chief in the Middle East and Balkans for 15 years to New York Times and host of the Chris Hedges report on YouTube, which I highly recommend.

0:25.0

Great to see you, sir.

0:26.3

Thanks.

0:26.7

Thanks, Crystal.

0:27.7

Yes, of course.

0:28.4

So we wanted to dig into your knowledge and study in particular on the topic of fascism, which is extraordinarily uncomfortably relevant right now.

0:38.5

And let's kick it off with current events. You wrote an extraordinary piece about the way that Charlie Kirk is being

0:44.6

put into the role of a martyr in the way that this regime is using his assassination to consolidate

0:52.9

their project. Now we also have this ice shooter that killed

0:56.9

one migrant and critically injured to others in Dallas, Texas. What is this regime doing to make use

1:04.2

of these killings? So all radical movements are built on, quote, unquote, the blood of martyrs.

1:19.9

The 1905 aborted revolution in Russia, took its first Bolshevik, I forget his name,

1:22.4

who was elevated to martyrdom.

1:26.8

The 1905 revolution was kind of the dress rehearsal for 1917.

1:30.9

Of course, the Nazis did it with Yost Wiesel.

1:35.1

But this was true in El Salvador, the war I covered, in Bosnia, everywhere else. So why is a martyr important?

1:38.1

Well, a martyr, it becomes sanctified.

1:41.9

And that was immediate, even before the suspect Robinson was apprehended.

1:48.0

You had Trump declare him a martyr. You had the announcement that he would get the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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