Episode 236: We Don't Believe Our Own Stuff | Resurrection

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

It seems Latter-day Saints most often speak about resurrection in the literal sense: the reuniting of spirit and body. Jesus rising from the tomb holds promise for us after our own inevitable physical death. But as Richard Rohr says, "Literalism is invariably the lowest and least level of meaning." So what else can we take from this concept? Actually, the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about renewal! In Episode 236, Cynthia and Susan explore resurrection. It's a conversation not about what happens after we die, but about the possibility of experiencing transformation in our lives here and now.

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0:00.0	And even if tomorrow was known, even if we did have, even if resurrection, the literal resurrection,
0:09.2	we had a knowledge of that as opposed to having faith in it, I still want to live today differently.
0:14.7	I want to savor, drink in, and soak up now.
0:19.2	So yeah, I'm glad you're showing up with me to, to have this conversation
0:22.2	because I'm done. I'm done kicking the can down the eternal road of all this stuff. I'm just done.
0:31.3	Hello, I'm Susan Hinkley. And I am Cynthia Winward. And this is at last she said it.
0:36.9	We are women of faith discussing complicated things.
0:39.7	And the title of today's episode is, We Don't Believe Our Own Stuff, Resurrection.
0:45.9	Welcome back to We Don't Believe Our Own Stuff.
0:48.4	It makes us think we get to talk about resurrection.
0:51.2	I don't know.
0:52.6	I don't either.
0:53.7	Here's the thing. This is not the first episode,
0:56.2	by the way, that we have sat down to and I've said, what on earth makes me qualified to talk
1:01.2	about this? It happens fairly regularly, but I hope that by doing it anyway, maybe we help
1:08.5	women have the idea that it's okay to have big thoughts about big topics.
1:13.3	You can do your own thinking about this stuff, right?
1:15.6	That's what qualifies us.
1:16.7	Yeah, exactly.
1:17.9	What qualifies us is we're members of the church and we're thinking human beings.
1:22.2	So we're qualified.
1:24.7	Yep.
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