Episode 230: Creating Your Future | A Conversation with Jody England Hansen

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

“I can take as long as I need on the edge of the chasm of the unknown,” writes Jody England Hansen. “I can experience the terror of moving into the future for however long I feel it. I can turn again to the past if I choose to deal with that pain. I can create my future, choosing to step forward on a path that I might not see until I am in the next moment, the next place I step.” In Episode 230, Jody joins Cynthia and Susan to discuss approaching whatever’s next in our lives with active hope and love. She reminds us to “create reasons to create.” This is a conversation about mercy, grace, forgiveness, and our power to face the tragic gap and walk forward anyway.

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0:00.0	And that's what Christ asked me to do.
0:10.0	Being on the cross, the worst kind of betrayal, the worst kind of experience, the worst kind of pain.
0:16.0	And he was offering mercy and forgiveness.
0:19.0	Because how could he recreate? How could he knit his flesh together again?
0:25.6	How could he create life again if he was limiting mercy, if he was limiting forgiveness?
0:32.6	And that example, recognizing that he was creating a future by being complete from the past,
0:41.3	by forgiving what had happened from the past, is part of what gave him creative power to be reborn.
0:56.4	Hello, I'm Cynthia Winward. And I'm Susan Hinkley.
0:57.9	And this is at last she said it.
1:00.4	We are women of faith discussing complicated things.
1:03.8	And the title of today's episode is Creating Your Future, a conversation with Jody England
1:10.0	Hansen. Welcome Jody., Jody. Thank you.
1:13.7	Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here. Jody has been on with us before, episode 124, the Holy Work of
1:20.9	activism. And we're excited to have you back today, Jody, but do you want to jump in and say anything?
1:28.9	Introduce yourself before we get into the meat and potatoes? Well, it was lovely to be on before. I love seeing both of you
1:35.3	whenever we run into each other. I'm still very much an activist because I'm very much still
1:42.9	a Jesus lover and Jesus followers, and Jesus wants me for an activist.
1:50.0	And more than ever, people are in need.
1:52.9	And so I work with the Utah Suicide Prevention Coalition.
1:57.3	I lead suicide prevention training for Lift and Love several times a month and for many different groups, especially LDS groups.
2:06.2	I volunteer to do that.
2:08.0	I live in Salt Lake City with my husband in the most beautiful part of the valley, seriously.
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