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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 211: Behold, our Q4 episode

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Ah, well, that took a bit longer than expected!  We promise we don't mean to let this become a quarterly show, or even a monthly.  Too much national security law for that! In today's episode, we discuss: Haroon Gul's victory in a GTMO habeas case (and what it may or may not mean for the bigger picture) Majid Kahn's sentencing testimony (and the clemency letter that the majority of the panel subsequently issued) The SCOTUS decision to deny cert. in ACLU's attempt to establish a constitutional right of public access to at least some FISC opinions (and the Gorsuch-Sotomayor dissent) The SCOTUS oral argument in Fagaza, raising both statutory interpretation questions about FISA (and, possibly, constitutional questions about the State Secrets Privilege) Today's DOJ announcement about Poland's arrest (and America's extradition request concerning) a Ukrainian national associated with the REvil ransomware Kaseya campaign The conviction (for economic espionage) of a Chinese MSS official who attempted to get an American GE employee to spill secrets (and the extradition of the defendant from Belgium, where he thought he was going to take delivery of stolen information) And, of course, some disorganized frivolity!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 211 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.6

We're a quarterly podcast brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:20.4

It's November 8th, 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney.

0:25.5

I'm Steve Lottick. It keeps getting worse.

0:28.0

I guess I lost out on the over-under during our last episode.

0:32.5

I think I missed it by about two to three weeks.

0:36.1

Ouch. At least. At least. Yeah. So we're, uh, friends,

0:40.8

we're sorry. We've sort of defaulted into being a monthly podcast. It's not a conscious choice on

0:46.2

our part. It's just, uh, you know, it's stuff. It's all happening and we're swamped.

0:51.6

But we missed you. We're back.

0:54.3

There's a lot to talk about.

0:55.8

Steve, how you doing?

0:59.0

Oh, you know, the usual.

1:00.9

Did you see this new university that they're going to have in Austin, the University of Austin?

1:06.5

Wait, what?

1:10.0

I'm afraid to ask, who's the they there?

1:12.6

Who's they that's launching a new university?

1:15.6

Oh, you know, Barry Weiss, what's his name, Bondsdale, you know, all of those, all of those forward thinkers who just, you know, bring rigor and intellectual discipline into their day jobs.

1:27.2

I know I didn't hear it right, but it sounded like you said, Barry White, and I thought

1:32.2

that would be amazing.

1:34.7

That university I would go to.

1:38.1

Wait, so is it, is it, so it's some sort of, can't get enough of your woke, babe.

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