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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 212: Nakatomi Plaza Holiday Office Party Edition

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to our official Holiday Office Party, where we mainly just hope things will go smoother than they did for the good people of Nakatomi Corporation in 1988! In this episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss: The state of the criminal contempt of Congress proceedings against Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows The D.C. Circuit's ruling refusing to assert post-presidential decision-making authority to Donald Trump in relation to the records of his presidency held by NARA The SCOTUS cert. grant in Torres (does Congress under its power to raise and support the armed forces have authority to abrogate state sovereign immunity) The SCOTUS cert. denial in Begani The 10th Circuit's ruling in Muhtorov (upholding the Section 702 FISA framework against various challenges) Passage of the NDAA for Fiscal Year '22 All that, plus book recommendations for your holiday shopping convenience, and a Q&A regarding the works of the great Mo Willems (you know: Pigeon, Elephant and Piggie, and Knuffle Bunny).

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to the end of the year holiday party for the National Security Law Podcast, also known as Episode 212.

0:17.0

We're brought to you once in a blue moon by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas,

0:22.3

theoretically on a weekly basis, but you know, it's December 17th, 2021. I'm Bobby Chesney.

0:29.3

I'm Steve Vlodic. I think it's been 39 days since our last episode.

0:32.9

Yeah, the periodicity is, I think it's increasing. It's increasing.

0:40.3

There's some entropy going on here.

0:42.2

But 212, 212.

0:46.9

The area gets me all warm and fuzzy about area codes.

0:47.4

That's right.

0:50.5

It's a very appropriate area code for... I grew up in 212.

0:52.2

That's right.

0:52.6

The 212, Steve's homecoming.

0:55.2

It's a homecoming party as well as a holiday party.

0:58.0

So, you know, apparently I had always thought, or at least I had thought I had always known that like when they first handed out area codes in like the 1950s or 60s or whatever, that they tried to sort of make it based on like how little distance

1:13.6

your finger had to go on a rotary dial.

1:16.6

New York got 212 because that was actually a very short distance on a rotary dial, right?

1:22.2

Like, L.A. was 213. Chicago was 312. And apparently that's, it's not about the rotary dial.

1:30.2

It's about the mechanical switches.

1:32.4

Interesting.

1:32.9

But is it the same concept and efficiency?

1:34.5

Same rough concept that like the idea was like the lower the, the lower number of the digits,

1:39.7

the less work that the equipment had to do.

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