Hey, just dropping in before the show to let you know that the Lamb to literary award-winning

anthology, Too Furious, have you heard of it, has officially been re-released in the US and Canada,

so if you're in Canada, great news news you can get free shipping by ordering online

at all lit up.CA or of course you can request it at your local bookstore or library and

similarly if you're in the US and you want to do me a big

big favor just go to a bookstore find the gayest employee and ask them to order

this book you don't even have to buy it just ask them to stock it. Or you can order from Girl Dad Press.com and I will

personally send you a copy with some fun stickers in it. I'll even sign it if you want.

Again, that is the book Too Trans Too Furious and Extremely Serious Journal of Transgender Street Racing Studies.

Okay, here's a show. Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding

what the hell Gender is.

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuck Woodstock.

Hey everyone, I hope you're all hanging in there.

This week on the show I am so so

excited to share my conversation with my good friend Rose Eveleth by the way Rose

Rose actually debuts a probable new name at the very end of this episode but we are using Rose for now because that is what they specifically

told me to do

So don't yell at me about it. Anyway, I am such a huge fan of Rose. I think their work is so smart and so creative

and so robustly thoughtfully researched. Over their career Rose has written like a zillion articles they released nearly 200 episodes of their podcast flash forward and in this episode we don't talk about any of that. We focus specifically on their new show, Tested, which debuted last month on the

CDC and NPR's embedded.

A very cool thing about Tested is that it was produced by our very own producer Ozzy who also produced

Rose's podcast flash forward so in this interview Ozzy is both an interviewer asking

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