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The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast

Episode 175: Warning Signs: The Story of Chris Watts with Lena Derhally

The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast

Kate Anthony

Education, Self-improvement, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.4574 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Lena Derhally is back on the show! Last time we talked about social media narcissism and other harmful effects of using social media. This time she joins me to talk about Chris Watts, who was the topic of her book My Daddy is a Hero: How Chris Watts Went from Family Man to Family Killer.  

On August 13, 2018, Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife Shanann and two young daughters. Why is this story important for all to hear and especially those listening to this podcast? It's important because it's a case study of narcissism and the warning signs we all might miss. In Lena's book (and this episode) Lena pieces together the crime, the events leading up to it, and her beliefs about the "why."

Lena Derhally is a Washington DC-based licensed and Imago certified psychotherapist in private practice. She is the author of the Amazon True Crime and Criminology bestseller, My Daddy is a Hero: How Chris Watts Went from Family Man to Family Killer, and the forthcoming pop psychology book, The Facebook Narcissist: How to Identify and Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones from Social Media Narcissism.

Show Highlights

  • What led to Chris's confession of murdering his wife and children (5:59)
  • Psychopaths don't have the same empathy or attachments as others, but they can learn to mimic the emotions and experiences of others around them (15:05)
  • How to use this story as a way to protect yourself or spot red flags (24:14)
  • The shame and blame of victims of intimate partner violence (43:21)
  • Once a partner starts devaluing you, it is time to question what you want/don't want from your relationship (54:22)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have open and honest conversations about co-parenting, separation, divorce, and the hardest question of all, should you stay or should you go.

0:17.8

I'm Kate Anthony, your divorce survival guide, and I'm here to help you navigate some of

0:23.3

the roughest waters you've ever swum in and answer some of your toughest questions. I've been to

0:29.1

hell and back, and now it's my mission in life to help you get to the other side of this process

0:35.1

with your sanity and your heart intact.

0:45.5

Hey everyone.

0:47.6

Welcome back.

0:49.8

Happy July.

0:51.9

Can you believe it?

0:53.3

Holy moly. Summer, she is flying by. So today I have with me,

1:01.0

I brought back my friend Lena Der Haulie. As I said, I think I told you in our first episode

1:08.5

that Lena wrote two books. And, you know, she first came to me to talk about the

1:14.3

Facebook narcissist. And then I found out that she wrote a book on Chris Watts. And I was like, oh, yes, we will be

1:19.3

doing a show on that as well. So that's what we are here to talk to, talk about today. I just want to remind you that if you haven't submitted a Q&A

1:30.5

and you have something that you want me to answer on a Q&A episode, submit them, kateanthony.com

1:37.9

slash questions and I will get to them. And I am spending the rest of this summer writing my book.

1:48.5

So it's due to the publisher in September.

1:53.5

It will not be out until 2024.

1:55.7

So don't get too excited.

1:59.8

But just send me all the positive happy vibes because I think I'm going to need it.

2:08.6

That's all.

2:10.3

All right.

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