Episode 161: CIBJO and 'Synthetic,' a Rare Watch and Gem
The Jewelry District
JCK
4.9 • 50 Ratings
🗓️ 3 December 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Jewelry District, a podcast by J.C.K. brought to you by Navoda. |
| 0:17.0 | Today, Rob Bates and Victoria Gamowski talk about takeaways from the Sibjo Conference in Paris, |
| 0:22.7 | Patek Philippe's historic decade one auction in Geneva, and the mysterious Florentine diamond. |
| 0:30.4 | Hey, everyone. |
| 0:31.5 | Welcome to the jewelry district. |
| 0:33.4 | This is Victoria Gamelski, editor-in-chief of JCPay and J-C-K Online.com. |
| 0:38.8 | Calling in from Los Angeles, and I'm with. |
| 0:41.1 | Rob Bates, news director of J-C-K and J-C-KOnline.com, calling in from New York City. |
| 0:48.2 | How goes it? |
| 0:49.1 | It goes well, yeah, just staring down the barrel of this, the last few weeks or six, seven weeks of this year. I can't believe we're already in mid-November. So yeah, we're recording this in mid-November. I know that listeners aren't going to be hearing it in mid-November, but we'll be even closer to the end of the year. It's always, I don't know, I guess that's what happens when you get older. Time really, really flies. The last time we talked, you were, and we don't have to spend too much time on this because I know that there are some things still being worked out, but just how was Paris? How was it being, you know, at Sibjo and just how was it being in the city of light? Yeah, well, Paris is a lovely place and I was definitely in a very kind of |
| 1:30.7 | lively area. It was, you know, beautiful city, great food. The Parisians were not so bad. You know, |
| 1:37.1 | I've definitely had past issues with Parisians, but they were very nice this time. Just like, you know, |
| 1:42.9 | some people have passed, have had issues with New Yorkers, but this time it was very nice and they took us to the big |
| 1:50.1 | event, you know, they have the big event. It was in the French Senate, I guess, and it was a pretty, |
| 1:56.3 | it was pretty impressive place, you know, it's definitely definitely you feel like you're kind of in a place |
| 2:02.8 | out of time, you know, from another century. But that was, so that was very nice. And I thought that |
| 2:09.7 | the kind of main discussion topic would be this issue that to change the blue books, |
| 2:15.1 | should lab-grown diamonds be only referred to as synthetic and not |
| 2:19.3 | labrown? Honestly, it seemed like a lot of people had already made up their minds on that topic. |
| 2:25.4 | I'm sure it's going to be very controversial if they decide to do it, but they, you know, |
| 2:29.2 | it has to go through a bunch of committees. And I, I ran an interview with Guyetano Cavallieri who was the president of |
| 2:36.8 | Sibjo and he was very clear that this has not been decided and there's like a lot of committees |
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