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Today, Rob Bates and Victoria Gamowski talk to Olivia Landau, founder and CEO, and Kyle Simon,

founder and CEO of the Clearcut.

Hey everyone, welcome to the jewelry district.

This is Victoria Gamelski, editor-in-chief of JCPay and JCPOnline.com, calling in from Los Angeles,

and I'm with.

Rob Bates, news director of J-C-K and J-CKOnline.com, calling in from New York City.

Hey, what's up?

I'm doing good.

It's 85 degrees on a nice December day here. Good old California holiday. I feel like I don't know if I've been invited to fewer holiday parties or they're all just scrunches. Yeah, there's not a lot this year, right? Next week. Yeah, I don't feel like I've had quite as many holiday goings on as I typically have, at least jewelry focused. I don't know. I don't know if that's a sign that, you know, it's been a reflection of a more challenging year or just

happenstance. But I am going to some events next week, which will be when readers are, or pardon me, listeners are hearing us. I always like, I feel like the holiday parties are people are a little looser. They get a little more relaxed. It's the end of the year. They have a few more conclusive comments about business. So I feel like those are good opportunities to kind of get

the real dirt on how business went. So we'll see what I discover next week. But what about you?

Any events that you've been to over the last couple weeks or that you're going too soon that are

promising? Yeah, you know, I was just thinking. yeah, you're right. There is, haven't been that many events. I did go to a De Beers Desert Diamonds thing. I've been actually the two Debears Desert Diamonds thing. At both those events, I saw our guests today. Ah, you actually mentioned that. I can't miss this opportunity to do them up then.

We've got, and now our guests today, I think, is it our third couple counting you and Susan?

Is it our fourth, I think?

Our fourth couple, which is always exciting. It's always nice to have sort of two people, as opposed to just drilling down with our one guest.

And I actually met them very briefly

at the Converge event back in Carlsbad in September when GIA and AGS had their dual

conference of the year. And we passed them at a restaurant. And it was nice to say hello, but I'm

super excited to welcome them here. Of course, it's one of the industry's power couples. I think

is a very fair assessment. It's Olivia Landau, founder and CEO of the Clearcut and her husband,

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