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Episode 151: Why John Piper Should Stop Speaking on Marriage -- and turning the other cheek!

Bare Marriage

Sheila Gregoire

Marriage, Sex, Christianity, Wife, Religion & Spirituality, Mother, Society & Culture, Advice, Family

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Links to things mentioned:

John Piper article on harsh husbands:

https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/counsel-for-wives-with-harsh-husbands

Our original Facebook Live (expanded content from this podcast, extra 13 minutes on end):

https://www.facebook.com/100044310975500/videos/1036770680299677

Our article talking about John Piper and harsh husbands:

https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2022/06/john-piper-tells-women-with-harsh-husbands-to-basically-do-nothing/

Dr. Alison Cook on Turning the Other Cheek:

https://www.dralisoncook.com/should-you-turn-the-other-cheek/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bear Marriage Podcast, I'm Sheila Ray Gregoer from to love, honor and

0:14.4

vacuum.com where we like to talk about healthy, evidence-based biblical advice for

0:19.9

your sex life and your marriage and I am joined right now by my husband Keith. Hey everybody. Yes you're

0:25.8

going to go away in a minute and we're going to bring on Rebecca but that phrase

0:30.0

biblical advice can get people into trouble. Yes. Because often we proof text and

0:39.2

take verses from the Bible out of context and so it sounds like we're saying something

0:45.7

biblical but what we're actually saying it does not reflect the heart of

0:49.8

Christ. Yeah so rather than seeing what Jesus wants us to do, we're having our own agenda of what we want people to do and then we prove it from the Bible and we bash people over the head with it.

1:00.0

Exactly. And that's a biblical often means. And we had a really good example of that.

1:04.4

A couple of weeks ago, John Piper on June 10th wrote a post and a podcast

1:11.8

on how a woman should respond to a harsh husband. and a live on this to look at the problems in his article and people really appreciated the

1:25.3

Facebook live and asked if we could put it on the podcast so I'm actually gonna have

1:29.7

Rebecca on with me and we will show we will post the Facebook live and then after that I have a

1:35.8

really cool article I want to share with you. Sure. Okay so here is Rebecca and me.

1:40.1

Hello we are here to talk about John Piper and what he said about people in abusive marriages.

1:52.0

Well, he didn't use the word abusive, but we're going to talk about why it did apply to abusive

1:56.7

marriages.

1:57.7

Yes, exactly.

1:58.7

Here's what happened.

2:00.0

On Friday, a podcast by John Piper on the

2:03.3

desire and God website released and a woman was writing in talking about what to do if

2:08.7

her husband was harsh and she did say that he wasn't physically abusive but that he was harsh.

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