Hey Katie. Hey Jesse. I'm sorry. Is that you then gonna say and hey Helen? Wait, you did not explain that in no way. Did you explain that bit? You did not explain that at all. Okay. Let's just go with this. Let's just go with this. Let's continue from here. Yeah, we're joined by. We're joined by Helen Lewis. Helen. How's it going? Excellent. Yeah, I'm just.

Well, Helen, Helen now sees the professionalism that goes to do every episode of whatever the fuck this podcast is. Can I, can I just take 10 seconds to explain how you and I got to know one other. Yeah, I don't remember. I got it. So this is going to be.

She's blocked. People don't know this. Helen Lewis had trouble breaking into broadcast because she had like a really thick Texas straw. So it was like, how do y'all welcome to the BBC? And that just no one could understand what she was saying. So she got in touch with me. I do some accent coaching on the side. And that's how she now sounds the way she sounds. So I'm glad this worked out for you, Helen.

Thank you very much. I thought the way that we met was the first time you covered me on the podcast. You got my name wrong. Supplement putting you in a bracket with the other person who consistently gets my name wrong. It was Jordan Peterson.

I think it's Ellen Brown. So thanks for that. Did you tell you Helen Joyce? No, that was what usually happens is that there is obviously a range of British hellens. Unlike. Yeah, very in spiciness. But so sometimes people I think I probably the least spicy of the British hellens, but people do confuse me with one of the other ones quite a lot.

Well, we were all recently we were all named together in a paragraph and been business in set or magazine. Did you see this?

I was very excited to learn that I had been moonlighting for Barry Weiss's sub stack without apparently processing through my conscious brain at any point. Yeah.

Should we just read the original just so people know what I'm talking about? It was kind of amazing. Yeah, I go for it. I don't have it up.

What's funny about it is it's business inside. I could understand if it was some an overtly progressive journal that kind of thinks that we're all beyond the pale.

But it's like business inside it. Don't you just write about businesses inside businesses? No, not anymore.

Oh, no, the insider has like basically any American publication has had a segment dedicated to being crazy since 2016.

So insider does a range of like good stuff and actual reporting and then this sort of thing.

Okay, so this article is by someone named Lindsey Dodgson.

Musk's media renegades the anti establishment writers, including Matt Taibe and Barry Weiss chosen for the Twitter files. And I saw this because I embarrassingly have a Google alert for all of your names, not mine, but all of you.

Sure.

And so this came into my Gmail. And so I read the following paragraph in January 2021. Weiss also set up a sub stack in an outlet called the free press focusing again on gender issues and hosting.

Gender critical and anti transgender activists such as Helen Lewis, Julie Bindle Katie Herzog and Jesse single. I do appreciate that Jesse singles at the end of the paragraph where he belongs.

But other than that, everything about that paragraph is incorrect, including the name of the outlet.

It wasn't called the free press in 2021. It wasn't focused on gender issues. Helen.

I've literally never written for it. Although good exciting for you, Jesse, you've broken the hardest. The last hardest glass ceiling of being a turf.

I'm excited to find that you must be excited to just go to the euro one.

Often been confused about being a turf. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was big news for Helen and demonstrates the quality control going on it inside. They did correct that, right, Katie?

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