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Well, Vivica, welcome.

You are the nurse cavewoman, I understand. And so I've got a, you know, I got a cavewoman behind me as a background. You know, that I don't sit up high enough or, I don't know. Some of you know, you get the funny things that are like, you know, they don't like it when I'm like this because this, all this is, and then when I sit up, because the chair I mean, it leans back and I'm too big and it just, this is kind of the way I got this set up.

No, Perlis, head and then when I sit up because the chair I'm in I have to it leans back and I'm too big and it just this is kind of the way I got this set up I know personally I like the floating head Sean

the best floating head yeah that was one I want to green shit that works well I'm sorry guys if you

don't like the visual aesthetics but vivica where are you at where are you calling from? I'm in Ohio, California. Oh, hi. I went to a barbecue in Ohio years ago. I used to play rugby for the Santa Barbara Grunions. Oh, wow. Years ago. And one of the teammates had a little place down in Ohio. And so we went down there and, God, this is about 1992, so 93, something like that must have been. But, okay, so you're just, so I'm down in, I'm down in Orange County, so not too far away. I know Zach used to be a California man, but yeah, tell us. Nice. Tell us a little bit about your background, and then we can kind of get into what you do and get some questions going. All right. So first I want to kind of tell you a funny story.

You mentioned the nourished caveman and the nourished cavewoman.

So I'm Italian and like when I first started in my blog, the Nourish Caveman, I was doing like come from a Western

Price background and was studying nutrition and you know had to get

some recipes to the patients of the practice where I was working and everybody asked for recipes

nobody had good recipes so I was like I'm going to create my own recipes and I am going to

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