Hi, this is Greg Kielstrom. Welcome to season three of the Agile World, where we discuss customer

employee experience, organizational and workforce transformation, and how business can adapt and

continually improve in an Agile age. The Agile World podcast is brought to you by tech systems,

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For more information, go to techsystems.com. To read more about the topics discussed in the show,

you can go to my website at theagile.world and read my latest articles or get a copy of my latest

book, The Agile Workforce, now available on Amazon and other retailers. My name is Greg Kielstrom,

and I'm the co-founder and CEO of CareerGig and host of the Agile World podcast. Today we're going

to talk about how large organizations can become and stay more agile by adopting a gig or project-based

approach internally. Tell me, discuss this topic. I'd like to welcome Edie Goldberg,

founder of EL Goldberg and Associates, and author of the book, The Inside Gig.

First, Edie, welcome to the show, and why don't you tell me a little bit about your background and

what drove you to your current area of focus? Well, Greg, thank you so much for having me here.

I'm excited to chat with you and your audience about everything Agile. So a little bit about me.

I have a background at a PhD, actually, in industrial and organizational psychology,

and I think that for me, what that really gave me was kind of a love for systems thinking,

of really understanding what's going on in the broader environment. How does everything connect

together? And I have been a talent management consultant for over 30 years now, so a lot of time

in the business, and I'm a little bit of an odd duck in that I'm a career consultant. So

I've always worked in a consulting firm after I got out of graduate school. And about in 2014,

I started working with a group of other chief HR officers and other HR thought leaders

on a project around the future of work. And what we were really trying to do was to

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