The very real possibility that, you know, there was at least an opportunity for other people

to have planted that evidence in an attempt to frame Ivan.

There was just a lot that the jury didn't hear.

When I think it was a court trial, I have one shot more on opportunity to be not guilty.

Are I going to prison in death row?

Mm-hmm.

Except the reality of it.

We have busted alibis.

We have caught people in line.

This is just insane because everybody's pointing the finger at somebody else.

You just don't hear every day walking in somebody's house.

They're going to take the plastic out and pop somebody.

So he could get the execution date pretty much any day?

Yeah.

There's no impediments.

This is Cousins by Blood.

Episode 10.

What happened to the ring?

This episode will be covering Ivan's trial.

It took place over 10 days and October of 2001.

And I didn't even think about the date until Ivan wrote me this in a letter.

On September 11, 2001, Day of the World Trade Center attack.

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