Just to say that genes do not define everything.

Genes are, of course, very important.

They make us human.

They define many of our traits.

20% of longevity is defined by genes.

And everything else is environment.

Welcome to the Fat Emperor podcast.

I'm your host, Iber Cummins.

A fascinating discussion today.

And we're going to be talking about glycans, glycosylation, maybe the glyco calyx as well.

Some of you may be familiar with.

And all about genetic traits that drive disease and also environmental ones and the difference between the two.

So we're going to be with Professor Gordon Loutes and he's a professor of microbiology

and molecular biology at the University of Zagreb in Croatia.

So great to meet you, Gordon.

Hi, Ivor. Thanks for the invitation and the introduction.

Not at all. And I forgot to mention my friend Creon Levitt, who's also kind of a genius,

connected me to you. So appreciate their Creon getting me connected because this is fascinating stuff.

Yeah, well, it's quite a novel. Not so many people think about it.

So I think it's good to talk about it and like more people into this field because there is a huge potential.

Absolutely. And I've watched some of your material, so I've an appreciation of it. And as you go through the material, I might pop in the odd time, maybe clarify something. But otherwise, it'll kind of be like a talk with an annoying member of the audience clarifying occasionally. That's fine. Very good. Okay, doke. Then I'll let you kick off. It's probably the best thing.

Get right into it. Okay. So I'll start with introduction about glycans and how we can use

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