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Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

Ep152 "How do you survive your own thoughts?" with Jewel

Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

iHeartPodcasts

Health & Fitness, Education, Science, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.7620 Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

What do you do when your own mind stops feeling safe? How does a person sing on stage while panicking inside? How do you catch your thoughts before they catch you? Join Eagleman with singer/songwriter Jewel to talk about mental health: the battles she’s lived, the wisdom she’s earned, and the lives she’s helping shape. This episode kicks off Mental Health Awareness month, when we’re reminded to look directly at what is typically hidden. A troubled mind with stormy weather can often remain dark; join us this month to bring some light.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.0

What do you do when your own mind stops feeling safe?

0:08.7

How does a person sing on stage while panicking inside?

0:13.2

How do you learn to catch your thoughts before they catch you?

0:18.2

And can creativity become a survival tool? Today we're talking with

0:22.7

singer-songwriter Jewel about mental health, the battles that she has lived, the wisdom

0:28.9

she's earned, and the lives she's helping to shape. Welcome to Inner Cosmos with me, David Eagleman.

0:38.4

I'm a neuroscientist and author at Stanford,

0:40.7

and in these episodes, we sailed deeply into our three-pound universe

0:44.5

to understand why and how our lives look the way they do.

0:48.5

Thank you. May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

1:02.2

Every year, we're reminded this month to look directly at what is typically hidden.

1:09.0

A broken arm is obvious, a fever is obvious, but a troubled mind can stay incognito often

1:16.1

for a very long time.

1:17.9

As we talk about here every week, the brain locked inside the skull builds our reality and

1:24.9

interprets our social world and generates the private weather that we live

1:30.5

inside. And when that internal weather turns dark and stormy, that struggle can remain invisible

1:38.7

even to the person sitting one chair away. Mental health awareness month exists because that sort of invisibility carries a cost.

1:49.6

This month asks us to bring these struggles into the light,

1:53.7

and by doing so, to reduce stigma and to widen the pathways to care.

1:59.6

This matters to everyone on the planet,

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