Ep. 98: Speaking Out About Speaking Out
The Baggage Reclaim Sessions
Natalie Lue
4.9 • 867 Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2017
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Warning: This episode includes references to incidences that some listeners may prefer not to hear about or they may find triggering if they've experienced it themselves. In this episode, Natalie shares why she feels that she needs to speak out about speaking out. Sharing personal experiences of having spoken out about very difficult issues including harassment and assault, as well as anecdotes from readers, listeners and friends, Natalie created this episode because she hears all too often from people who don't speak up or speak out because they 'don't want to make a scene/fuss' or they fear being perceived as 'dramatic', 'needy', 'a psycho', 'lying' etc., who are struggle to grapple with the emotional, mental and even physical consequences. We forget when we 'play nice' and keep silent, we very often struggle to live with ourselves.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to episode 98 of the baggage reclaim sessions. |
| 0:07.0 | I'm your host Natalie Lou, the writer of baggage reclaim.com, |
| 0:11.0 | where I help people to increase their emotional availability so |
| 0:15.0 | that they can move on from the past, feel confident and happier within, and show |
| 0:19.2 | up for the relationships and opportunities that reflect their best selves. |
| 0:26.0 | Hello there. |
| 0:27.0 | Today's topic is not something I had intended to talk about in the episode, |
| 0:32.0 | but a few different incidences have really flagged up the need for me to speak out about speaking out. |
| 0:40.0 | If you look at stuff that's been circulated online or stuff in the press, you'll see stories about people speaking out about assaults, harassment, discrimination that they've experienced in the past that's only |
| 0:54.6 | come into light now and often when this comes out it's not just them there's |
| 0:59.1 | numerous people who are speaking out about what has happened. |
| 1:04.0 | And I hear from readers and listeners |
| 1:08.0 | who, for instance, have experienced discrimination |
| 1:11.0 | or harassment or assault or abuse and they worry about an interesting concern. I don't really want to make a scene. I don't want to make fuss. I don't want to appear like I've been difficult. I don't want to appear like I'm being difficult. I don't want to appear like I'm actually the one who has a problem. I don't want to be seen as psychotic, needy, dramatic. |
| 1:36.0 | I don't want to upset anybody. And often they're talking about professional situations where they themselves are actually quite traumatized by what's been experienced. |
| 1:46.0 | And so these people then are thinking about, for instance having to go for a talk with HR or they've actually decided to leave their company and have an |
| 1:57.4 | exit interview. |
| 1:59.7 | And when they think about going, they're actually planning not not really planning to really to not be |
| 2:04.8 | honest about what has happened I think you know what I'm just gonna get out of here make a |
| 2:10.5 | fresh start and I get that because I've been there myself and we'll get to that. |
| 2:16.5 | But the thing is that when we go through difficulties in life, things that are actually quite traumatic to us that affect us |
| 2:25.1 | emotionally, mentally, physically and spiritually that actually affect our self-image. |
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