I'm April Voki and you are listening to Ancred. My chance to speak with some of the most influential people involved in the outdoors today. Join me as I travel to sit face to face with my guests in their own homes to learn more about their careers, opinions, history, relationships, and life both indoors and out.

When John O'Shales decided to start life over again, I bet he had no idea he would land in one of the

world's most impressive saltwater fisheries.

Now as a guide in Exmouth Australia,

Jono spends his days figuring out the patterns of permit, Queenfish, milkfish,

billfish, and countless other species off Australia's west coast. I met with Jono for an unexpected visit

at his home and ex-mouth and was thrilled to have an opportunity to pick his brain

and learn more about him and his findings. I grew up in South Africa but I'm of British origin my parents are British

I was born in Hong Kong and I have a Chinese birth certificate and now I've been in Australia for 20 years so I'm from

everywhere but I am through and through South African.

I actually did not know any of that.

I knew that you've been in Australia for a long time

But I didn't know any of the the rest of it right right so yeah, so I I don't really feel like I have a home as such from I'm from somewhere or I think X mouth right now is my home and I feel

very grounded here but 27 years in in Johannesburg and then spent time in London I've

just spent eight years in Sydney before coming here and I've

been here now for 10 years. Why Australia though what brought you here? I was

married to an Australian girl in the early 2000s. We relocated from South

Africa to Sydney and I was based in Sydney running graphic design and web design business

Did that for a number of years and until I said I got sick of it and I realized that that's not the direction

that I should be taking in my life.

When did fishing enter your life then?

Or early on, age of nine or ten, I got invited to go fly fishing up to one of the syndicates up in the high country in South Africa by a school friend of mine who I'm still in contact with and it's just one of those things you, you just go fishing and then you just enjoy it.

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