This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

My guest today has good intentions.

He knows that finance, modern finance, helps to make

the trains run on time, so to speak. Modern finance underlies all of us, all of what we do

every damn day. But where's the virtue? Is modern finance really helping us all as much as it could?

Or is there a dark side? A dark side where the biggest banks are front-running trades. The biggest banks are

trading high-frequency stuff to just meant money while the

little guy doesn't get a leg up. So is there a framework? Is there a different way to look at finance

that can perhaps help society in a more holistic way? Now look, you might be thinking, no way, it's dog-eat-dog capitalist world.

That's true.

Or at least it's been true.

But is it sustainable?

Can we keep going there?

Do we need a new perspective?

Do we need a new conversation?

My guest today, J.C. DeSwan, dive straight into the various issues of finance and more specifically this conflicted industry

of finance. And where's the virtue? I really enjoy these conversations today. because when everyone is just focused on the next

buck, the next can I sell one dollar? Where's the happiness? Where's the goodness? Is this what we

really want? Without any further delay, let's jump right into my conversation today with J.C. DeSwan.

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