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I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Put aside any one election.

Today, Americans don't trust each other.

There are two sides, two angry sides.

There are legitimate ideological conflicts.

There is a hardened partisanship. Everyone around the world can see this. Now look,

I have my perspective. I want the government out of my bedroom. I want the government out of my

pocketbook to the greatest extent that I can. I believe firmly that a belief in the modern day American government at the local,

county, state, and federal level is crazy.

We're not at war.

And the vast majority of debates in America behind the scenes are really about all these government

jobs. People are voting their jobs. That's my perspective. My guest today, Kevin Valier,

goes into this issue of trust in a polarized age. We try our very best. And I don't know every one of

Kevin's positions. We try our very best to present all of the perspectives, to try to get

somewhere, to get to some kind of an understanding. Now look, I just lay out my bias from the outset.

Those are my beliefs. But if you listen to this podcast, I just lay out my bias from the outset.

Those are my beliefs.

But if you listen to this podcast, you know that I have on this show liberals, conservatives and libertarians and probably all kinds of other people that I don't even know about.

And the trick to doing an interview, the trick to making it good is to give everyone a fair shake. Because if I just walk out there with my opinions and try to ram it down a guest's

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