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🗓️ 29 January 2020
⏱️ 97 minutes
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Jamie is joined by Daniel Denvir (@DanielDenvir), esteemed host of Jacobin's The Dig (aka socialist NPR) to talk about his book "All-American Nativism: How The Bipartisan War On Immigrants Explains Politics As We Know It." In an effort to explain how we got orange man, Denvir traces the history of anti-immigrant politics in the US, paying close attention to the bipartisan consensus that emerged in the 1970s and intensified with NAFTA, only fracturing when the GOP went fully mask off. What have been the material factors driving this? How does decriminalization of migration benefit the working class as a whole? And how should left-populist politicians like you-know-who talk about things like "open borders"? We realize it's like the third episode we've done on this topic, but it's important!
Outro music: Karen O w/ Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross - Immigrant Song and
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Follow @DanielDenvir and @thedigradio, and subscribe to The Dig at www.patreon.com/thedig
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| 0:20.0 | Okay, uh, right. Hello and welcome to the Antifada where unrest is best. I'm Jamie Peck. AP Andy is in Mexico and or Guatemala right now. Sean is recording something else today that I'm sure you're going to like. |
| 0:27.0 | So it's just me here along with my esteemed guest Daniel Denver. |
| 0:31.0 | How you doing? |
| 0:32.0 | Hey, thanks for having me. |
| 0:33.6 | Thank you so much for coming. |
| 0:35.8 | I really enjoy your podcast. |
| 0:37.5 | If you guys don't know about it yet, it's called The Dig, |
| 0:41.2 | presented by A Jacob-ofin and the way I describe it to people is like kind of what |
| 0:48.6 | if NPR but socialist you kind of have that same like irreg Glass vibe and if you're not really paying attention you're like oh yeah this is NPR and then you listen to what you're saying and you're like oh this is mad socialist so yeah |
| 1:00.6 | NPR form kami content chill low-key and |
| 1:06.2 | and p. our vibes but with with the socialist content that you are |
| 1:10.3 | accustomed to from various other more high energy podcasts. |
| 1:14.0 | Hell yeah, well maybe after we you know overthrow the bosses and |
| 1:20.0 | expropriate everything we'll have like some kind of international public radio that you can be in charge of. |
| 1:26.0 | Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And then I actually so NPR will just actually be socialist N NPR that will be redundant to say socialist |
| 1:33.7 | MPR because of course NPR will be socialist under socialism. |
| 1:37.1 | Oh you're tempting me you're taunting me with this I can taste it that's gonna be |
| 1:42.1 | so good when all these like moms |
| 1:43.8 | driving around in their volvos are just listening to socialist NPR. And then the |
| 1:48.4 | children are, do you know this term in public radio, backseat listeners? That's what I I if you grew up with your parents listening |
| 1:54.0 | to NPR inside the backseat of the Volvo like I did I was a backseat listener and you |
| 1:58.6 | have that morning edition like song like it has this like kind of |
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