moment of political and social and economic experimentation in the United States in the 19th century,

the ones that actually survive are like the Oneida community, which essentially is started by John Humphrey's Noise,

who was a religious man, he was a perfectionist,

he thought we could create perfection on earth.

He basically started another one of these communes

in One of these Communes in One Night in New York and the way that they

sustained themselves over time was by creating silverware.

In 1877 they started to make communally silverware, nice silverware and the only thing that's left of

it's that exists to this day is not a utopian socialist commune but a corporation that makes

silver and this is the way but a corporation that makes silver.

And this is the way, the kind of almost inevitable results of all these communities that are based

around production that's communal is they end up turning into capitalist enterprises and the only

thing that's really left at the end of it is a profit-making entity yes which

is sad but you know this is the way things go.

Everything gets dissolved.

All that is solid melts in the air.

That's right. Well, it has to because how are you going to compete?

How can you compete?

Which is why as much as it's a useful rhetorical tool, referring to

capitalism as a problem of greed is always going to be inaccurate because the individual desires of any given

capital industry are totally meaningless. If they decide to become, they

decide that they're not greedy anymore.

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