We're back with bodybuilding, Eric.

Let's face it.

The greatest sport, we don't need to talk about, like we, so just so everyone knows,

every time you hear us with a power lifter, a weightlifter,

or a strong man, strong woman competitor, or any other lifting sport,

it's basically filler.

We couldn't find a bodybuilder.

Yeah, so we started with a different title for the podcast,

and basically we realized we could not have a bodybuilder on every single time or talk about

bodybuilding that frequently. So then we kind of backpedaled and went, oh, maybe we should unite the

tribes. But no, today we have one of the most dominant athletes in terms of not just competitive

bodybuilding in the classic bodybuilding, classic physique division, but I would say an ambassador

for the artistic side of bodybuilding.

And in all seriousness, while we pretend our jokes, we make them, about the preference we

have for bodybuilding, even though Terence Ruffin, who is our guest today, is a bodybuilder

and embodies some of the aspects of bodybuilding I love the most, he's also a history buff.

He's also someone

who's involved in evidence-based training as a coach himself. He's well read. He has common

sense. And he's exactly the change that I like to see in this modern era of bodybuilding

where we've gotten away from magazines. Individual athletes have a platform. And the best of them

are using that platform for good,

doing ethical promotion of good information, answering questions, making themselves available,

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