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Her money comes to you through PRX. Hey it's Gene Chatsky. Welcome to her money. You know my guest Gretchen Rubin and I started out the morning talking about circles and it feels like this episode is very circular.

Gretchen was our first guest here on her money. She is out with a new book. It's called the four tendencies. There's a big circle on the cover. We will talk about about circles but it feels like we've hit a bit of a

milestone we're heading back to school we're in our second year and we're able to have our favorite guests back again which is amazing.

Welcome. Thank you for being here.

I'm so happy to be here to be back. Yes, you're right.

It doesn't seem like that long ago to me. And one of the things that we have noticed as we track the

listenership of this show is that people sample something along the way somebody tells them about her money, they hear

about it, they listen to an episode, and then they go back and they start at the beginning

and they listen to you.

And we still get, every week we still get people telling us you know how much they like that first

show oh that's so nice to hear that's great it's funny how like when you

discover a new podcast I often do the same thing you go right back to the beginning and you want to have that feeling that you've you've had the complete arc the complete it you're really caught up exactly exactly and it's nice because even if they only put it out once a week you can listen on a daily basis and you can actually get caught up which is terrific.

For those of you who don't know Gretchen, Gretchen is the author of many New York Times bestsellers

including The Happiness Project better than before, happier at home. She's got her

own fabulous podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin and her new book the four

tendencies is coming out on September 12th and it's all about the indispensable personality profiles that reveal

how to make your lives better and other people's lives better too.

Tell us about the genesis of this, because I know this came about while you were working on your

last book.

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