I'm going to be honest. I don't really know how to talk about what it is that Alexis Polly and Gums does. It's writing, but it's also swimming. It's also portal. It's also

remembering. It's also ceremony. This conversation is as much a celebration of our ancestors as it is an invitation into an even deeper experience of right now.

Where could we ever be other than in the unfolding of love, she asks.

What other time could it be than always?

We are in and entering a portal. Things are changing quickly and some completely.

In her work and in her way of being, Alexis illuminates the Black Feminist's path forward, which is the path of our

ultimate liberation.

Alexis is a queer black troublemaker, a Black feminist love Black Feminist, and the author most recently of Dub

Finding Ceremony, but also of Spill and M Archive. I highly recommend that you get all of them work with them and let them work you.

Excited to share this conversation with you all today.

Alexis, I'm so excited you're here today. I'm so excited you said yes to being on this podcast.

It feels like an incredible gift to have you be here today.

So thank you.

No, it's a gift to be here. Yeah, this is exactly exactly what I need today.

Thank you for that.

I always say that the impetus for creating this podcast was to open up a space to have

visionary conversations about where we're going, how we're going to get there.

And so every person that we've invited to be on this

podcast to us feels like a person who holds a really critical piece or sheds an

important light on what that journey is and you are absolutely one of those people.

Well, I'm honored, honored.

There's a way with your work that you are able to not only kind of point the way to the future, but right through and across time.

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