Hey, do badders. I've just finished this episode and it's quite a varied one. We do talk about running where we talk about what's happening in Ukraine now, races, whether you're able to train, but even the impact of the stress of day to day being at war has on you physically. But we also talk more generally about Ukraine living at war,

what it's like to be in a city, in a drain attack, in a missile attack,

all these other elements, and getting used to having that as your background noise.

It's a really, really insightful episode, guys.

I hope you enjoy it.

Take it away, guys. They hope you enjoy it. Take it away,

guys.

They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running. Yes, it's the bad boy

running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Come back. We often get previous guests on back on the podcast because we want to, the story often doesn't end where the story ends at the end of an episode. But also we have some people that we think are so interesting and some stories that need to be retold and caught up on and so i i wanted to get

say back on the podcast just to see what's been happening with his running with his world with

his country um so welcome to the podcast the wonderful say pop-up hey pop-up hello everybody happy to be here now because where

where are you right now if we're to describe which room which building which city which

country well i'm ukraine. I'm in Kyiv.

This is a kind of cafe, not very far away from my home.

So it's like a cozy place, quite safe.

So I think you'll be able to talk quite freely and with joy and actually the

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