Marshall and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

We've got a really awesome show for you guys today. We are talking to Douglas Murray.

He's a really interesting person from the United Kingdom. He's been on Joe Rogan.

Has released a couple books during this sort of Trump era. So this is another one of those good

long-form conversations with a person who's interested in issues beyond just their sphere.

Yeah, I really enjoy talking with Douglas. He's such an interesting guy.

Interviewed him on rising about a year ago. And Douglas has always been a really interesting

person. He's wrote the strange death of Europe back in 2017 about immigration.

He's looking tracked the social justice moving very closely. He is somebody who kind of identifies

pathologies and trends a lot sooner than a lot of other people will and then calls him out.

So I suspect that Douglas's work will look and be in the mainstream in a couple of years,

which means realignment listeners are very fortunate. I'll give you a straight-up trigger warning,

though. I mean, Douglas is a controversial guy. He's unapologetic for it and some of you may

not like it, but I think you'll be better off having listened to the whole conversation. We definitely

press him a little bit. Yeah, and that's really what makes talking to Douglas worth it because the

conversation I wouldn't be interested in is like generic like the social justice warriors are crazy.

That conversation was slightly edgy four years ago, but it definitely isn't edgy in 2020.

But what's good about Douglas is you've not only pushed back against him, but you guys

are listening to their going to see him actually think when we push back instead of just giving

us a generic response, which is the worst thing to hear. So a lot of good value there.

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