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Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

Ep. 632 – Healing Trauma & Releasing Burdens with Thomas Hübl, PhD

Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

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4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In a world shaped by collective crisis, Raghu Markus and Dr. Thomas Hübl come together to explore inner connection and healing trauma.

Interested in learning more about trauma? Grab a copy of Releasing Our Burdens, Thomas’s co-authored book with systemic family therapist Dr. Richard Schwartz, HERE

This time on Mindrolling, Raghu and Thomas discuss:

  • Thomas’s early call to meditation, spirituality, and a life of service
  • Living within a global ecosystem shaped by overlapping crisis dynamics
  • Returning to ourselves when we are overwhelmed by fear and pain
  • Understanding how trauma shuts down parts of the self as a survival response
  • Examining the lasting effects of trauma on both the mind and body
  • The genetic transmission of trauma across generations
  • The role of restorative practices in healing trauma and reversing symptoms
  • Digesting trauma instead of becoming stuck in survival patterns
  • Cultivating compassion, patience, and trust in the healing process
  • The power of presence as a foundation for trauma recovery
  • How healing even one part of the self creates fertile ground for deeper integration
  • Spiritual trauma and how it creates a misalignment within our inner and outer lives
  • Supporting one another in reconnecting with our most powerful resource: inner connection

About Thomas Hübl PhD:

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. Hübl is the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World, and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He is also the co-author of Releasing Our Burdens with Dr. Richard Schwartz. Hübl has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. Keep up with Hübl’s upcoming events and livestreams HERE. You can also follow Thomas on Instagram!

“What does trauma do? It shuts down a part of ourselves so that we can survive or go through very painful moments better. But the aftereffect, if it’s not being taken care of, is a sense of disconnect from ourselves. So, then we try to fill that hole with all kinds of other stuff that is not authentic to us, that is over consumerism, that is not feeding each other, that is creating all kinds of side effects.” –Thomas Hübl, PhD

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, it's Ragu, and I'm back with Mind Rolling, and I'm just talking to a new guest and saying, wow, this is great opportunity.

0:19.8

We haven't been able to meet before.

0:22.1

I've known of Thomas Heubel.

0:25.9

Is that good?

0:27.1

Very good, actually.

0:29.9

For a very long time.

0:32.7

And Thomas is really a phenomenal expert around trauma and has, I did pick up Thomas this, well, first of all, welcome.

0:47.2

Glad to have you.

0:48.6

Thank you.

0:50.0

And there's this wonderful book that uh... thomas did with uh...

0:54.5

richard schwartz uh... releasing our burdens is the title of it

0:59.6

and uh... richard is

1:02.7

very well known for internal family systems which many people are very

1:07.5

familiar with and uh... it's an amazing practice.

1:11.6

And but before any of that, I'm really curious how you landed in Israel.

1:21.6

Thomas is in Israel.

1:23.6

But beyond that, a little bit about what happened in terms of how did you, I, this is how I start most of my chats in terms of trying to get to know somebody.

1:37.1

What is it that brightened your life by virtue of understanding that you are not your mind, your senses,

1:49.7

and that there is something else out there.

1:52.3

It's called by so many different names.

1:55.6

But how did you encounter that something that, you know,

2:00.7

for me,

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