Ever worried you’re missing your shot at breakthrough growth because your leadership team is stuck in old patterns?

This episode is a raw look inside the mind of Sheldon Cummings, former Chief Operating Officer at Mailchimp and current President and General Manager at Smarsh, who’s steered brands across continents and navigated acquisition into one of the world’s most powerful tech companies. Cameron Herold digs deep into resilience, ruthless prioritization, and the magic of connecting culture to results, all delivered with a straight-shooter’s clarity. If you’re tired of shallow “success stories” and want the playbook for leading teams through uncertain times, this is your urgent reality check.

Don’t wait for your competitors to outpace you. Listen now! The invisible skills (and mistakes) revealed here will save you from costly setbacks, wasted energy, and slow, silent failure. These exclusive insights aren’t recycled elsewhere. Your team (and your sanity) can’t afford to miss this.

Timestamped Highlights

• [00:00] – The one moment that reset Sheldon Cummings’s entire career path… and how he engineered opportunity from chaos
• 06:42 – How a bold toolkit-first mindset kept propelling him up—across continents, industries, and uncertain times
• 11:07 – “Can you run a business you don’t ‘make’?” The surprising truth from global CPG frontlines
• 17:05 – The #1 underdog advantage in modern marketing—why Mailchimp doubled down on it during COVID
• 18:36 – What nobody tells you about integrating remote teams after a billion-dollar acquisition
• 22:58 – Ruthless prioritization in product roadmap: When discipline trumps ideas (and keeps customers loyal)
• 24:41 – Find the real numbers that matter: How top execs slice through data noise (and ignore 9,000 distractions)
• 35:40 – How to unfreeze middle management and create instant buy-in during relentless change

About the Guest

Sheldon Cummings is the former Chief Operating Officer for Mailchimp. Before stepping into his leadership role at Mailchimp, he had a dual role as a VP Intuit Sales in addition to serving as Intuit’s Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer (CDEIO). Since joining Intuit in 2017, Sheldon has led a number of leadership positions across Intuit’s Sales, Marketing, Global Partnerships, and Global Operations teams. Prior to Intuit Sheldon has had a number of roles across industries and countries, including leading a European business for 6 years headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland. Sheldon, a native of New York City, graduated with a BA from Wesleyan University, and received his MBA from Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management with concentrations in Finance, Marketing, and Strategy. He is currently the President and General Manager of Smarsh.

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Mentioned Resources

• Mailchimp
• Intuit
• QuickBooks
• TurboTax
• Kellogg School of Management (Northwestern)
• Wesleyan University
• McMaster-Carr
• Kimberly-Clark
• Kraft Foods
• Mondelez
• Huggies (Kimberly-Clark brand)
• ZVV transit app (Zurich)
• Design for Delight (Intuit framework)
• Clayton State Technology Program (Mailchimp/Intuit community initiative)

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Note: This Fan Favorite episode is a recast of one of our most impactful interviews, still packed with insights for second-in-command leaders. Whether it’s your first listen or a revisit, there’s timeless value inside.

The Second in Command Podcast is an original production hosted by Cameron Herold. Brought to you by COO Alliance. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.