Just a word of thanks to all you ex files, aficionados out there. We just hit our 50th episode.

We've had over 2 million downloads since we started this podcast in October. And I've

so enjoyed the conversations that I've been able to have here. And I'm just really

gratified that so many of you have as well. So keep listening and we'll see you down the

road.

And now from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the ex files with your

host David Axelrod.

I knew of Samantha Power before I knew her. I knew her as the author of a problem from

hell or the problem from hell. Her Pulitzer Prize winning book about human rights, which

really stirred a great debate about what America's role should be on human rights. And then I

got to know her as a need to send her Obama as a figure in the administration when I was

in the Obama White House and watched her later as the ambassador of the United Nations.

There isn't a brighter, more incisive and more passionate person. I know in public life,

as you can see from the conversation we had the other day.

Samantha Power, people, you know, there's this old expression, your map is the face of

Ireland. But yours actually is the face of Ireland because that's where you're from.

It's been a while, but yes, I came when I was nine to America.

And what was your experience growing up as a little girl there?

I went to a very, very Catholic school called Mount Anvil. I wore a little uniform with

a plaid skirt and patent leather black shoes. I mentioned this because when I moved to Pittsburgh,

Pennsylvania, those were the only clothing I really had to wear to school. So I showed

up in the same outfit at a public school in Pittsburgh, which didn't go wrong.

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