Marshall here. Welcome back to The Realignment.

Right now, Saugers recording our cross over episode of Andrew Yang's podcast.

It's going to come out next Tuesday. So today I'm flying solo. As we promised,

we're going to keep doing these Thursday episodes. And we'd like to use the

opportunity to go way deeper into the different topics we speak about on the

podcast. That's one of our very unfriendly iTunes reviewers Swaggy Man

3000 pointed out. Sometimes Sauger and I have a little too much fun and we

just sort of label those disagreeing about us as neoliberals and then we call

it today. The issues we focus on are actually really complicated so any chance

we get to actually help you all as listeners think about the world a little

deeper. It's actually a huge win for us. So for today's episode I'm speaking of

Jacob Helberg. Jacob Helberg is a senior advisor at the Stanford University

of Program on Geopilot and Technology and he's also an adjunct fellow at the

Center for Strategic and International Studies. He previously worked at Google

on news policy. If you enjoy this conversation about China, TikTok, industrial

policy, the way we could sort of bring jobs back home after COVID, he's working

on a book that's going to deal with all these issues related to technology and

national security. So today we're going to pause on re-alignment questions. If

you have any of you'd like to ask next week or for our upcoming Q&A shows,

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