They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

So you do bad as welcome to bad boy running.

And we like to follow up with a lot of our guests to find out what the story's been.

Because often you find a story and it doesn't end there because, you know,

as with running, people improve, people get injured, people race, situations change.

And last time we spoke to our next guest, he had, it's set an incredible marathon time as a

pacer, got on and won the whole thing.

It was incredible, it was brilliant to see.

And was at the cusp of that next step in his journey. So we wanted to get him on to talk to us about what's

happened in those next steps. He's joined NN running. He's had a few injuries along the way.

So we wanted to hear all about it and understand what the changes are when you get to that level of athletes.

So, and Joni just arrived in the room.

So we're going to intro him mid-intro, which is going to be even, even weirder, just as we're introducing.

Welcome to the podcast, Jenny Raceman and Jake Smith.

Yay!

Sorry, I'm late. Jake Smith. Yay!

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