I'm Dr. Deb Butler and you are listening to Thinner Peace and Menopause and Beyond.

This is episode number 448.

Welcome to Thinner Peace and Menopause and Beyond. This is Dr. Deb Butler, Master Life and Weight Coach, and as always, your coach.

If you're a woman and you're smart and you're successful and you've been struggling with weight your

whole life and now menopause is making it harder than ever and you are ready to make this

the last time you ever have to go on a diet

again, then this podcast is for you. Stay tuned. Well, hello, all my dear friends, all over the

world. What a beautiful day it is here for me, and I hope it's a beautiful day for you, too.

And if not, I'm hoping maybe what I have to tell you today might make it more beautiful.

So what I've decided to do, and for those of you who may or may not know, I did a two-part

master class, and in it, it was all about how to create

peace with food in menopause. And I had some videos out of me eating potato chips and me

drinking wine and talking about that I think that these foods, whatever the foods are for you, for me, those are my

joy eats. And they used to be more of my nemesis than my peaceful friend. I didn't think I could

eat or drink those if I was trying to lose weight. And I restricted and deprive myself until I

lost my weight. And then I couldn't wait to go back

and eat or drink it without restriction and with no connection to my body, because it was kind of

like I would turn my back on myself and say, I'm not looking, go ahead, and eat and drink whatever

you want. And all that did was lead me back to gaining the weight that I lost.

And I did that over and over again for 30 years.

And you may be something like that.

And if you've been listening to my podcast for a while,

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